Updated An edited and anonymous transcript of some chats about #rebooting the #openweb and #mastodon (markdown)

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 H. what do you think?
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+A discussern on mastodon
+Q. I am still looking for someone to explain me how technical openness translates on political freedom and equity. Or is it an "apolitical" project?
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+A. The are lots of different views on this subject, we could try this one: We are tool using creachers and it is our tools that shape our society that then shapes us that then shapes our tools that shape our society that shape us and round we go. Digital tech is not natural it all comes with a world view (ideology). The are many articles on this subject online. From closed to open is a step.
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+Q. Well, that is rather obvious, but it still gives me no answer I am looking for. What is the world view (ideology) you want to advance?
+Technology is only a vehicle for social and political agenda. Legal and political wrap-up can turn the most open technology into a tool of oppression. What is your take on this problem?
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+A(2). Technical openness has the advantages that:
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+- Potentially anyone can modify/improve the system to fit their needs
+- There is discouragement against adding antifeatures which are against the interests of users. This operates mostly at the psychological level - it's not that there are millions of code reviews of each project
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+Q. I am not new to open* concept and movement, going way beyond software. My question, still unanswered, i about political agenda connected with this particular project. Or lack thereof. Also, please note that "open" !== FLO There is a lot of open products, being propriety at the same time, due to licensing regulations (patents, intellectual "property" and such). What is your position in this regard?
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+A. If you click through to the wiki's on these projects you will find much on this subject https://github.com/Openmedianetwork
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+Q. I would rather prefer a *comprehensive* and *concise* political manifesto. If a project community does not care enough to write and publish it, it is ok. I will get through those links whenever I have time for it.
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+A. interestingly that is exactly what am trying not to do. Though a clear wright up of working practices is needed. These working practices are of course "political" but locking the #openweb to one point of view would not be open anymore, its why the #4opens are not directly political, its what we make of it.
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+Do you think this is a valid approach?
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+A. A side note to talk political ideology for a moment. The Internet and WWW were built to work in anachronistic world (based on trust and KISS) Its why it did not have identity or security hard coded in to it. The #OMN reboot is held in place by the #4opens Not a easy place for capitalism (though will work), its not hostile to liberalism (though will likely push past this). friendly to socialism (based on trust). Unfriendly to controlling bureaucracy (top down communism/fascism) etc.